shoptalk-digest Sunday, 3 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number
022
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From: GC Roush II <groush@icgroup.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:46:58 -0500
Subject: ShopTalk: clubmaking
What is the future of clubmaking and is it a viable business ?
Thank You
George C. Roush II
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From: billbroc@cybertours.com (William Brockman)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:29:24 -0500
Subject: ShopTalk: Dynamic Lite Q's
I like the trajectory of the Dynamic shaft (sloped S to R from PW to
LW) in my wedges, But don't like that heavy a feel in my long & mid
irons,
so I am considering the Dynamic Lites, esp. since I have heard so much
positve feedback about them from Dave T., who incidentally is similar to
me in swingspeed (mine is 75-80 5-iron) and swinger's swing (so he says).
So does anyone know what I should do as far as tip trimming? Whats the
DSFI? What did you do, Dave?
Thanks!
Josh Brockman
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From: John Payne <jcpayne@randomc.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:29:46 -0500
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tour Model LH Driver
Dave,
I built a LH 8.5 driver for a guy a few months ago. The only place I could
find a head like that was at Lauden Golf. 800-456-7095. They're in
Jacksonville Fla. Can't help you on the shaft though.
John in Duluth
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From: "Kevin George" <kgeorge@mail.cei.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:34:08 +0000
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: (no subject)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:44:57 +0100
From: Alan Cooper <naha@4884.LOL.li>
To: shoptalk@conch.aa.msen.com
Subject: ShopTalk: (no subject)
Reply-to: ShopTalk@conch.aa.msen.com
Hello,
Since I live abroad and don't have access to the Golfsmith toll free
number, maybe someone here can help. Are the Tour Model II and IV
identical iron heads (except for the camber) or are there other
differences, such as offset for example. Thanks.
Hello Alan,
The catalog says the Tour Model IV is slightly offset while the Tour
Model II is moderately offset. You can get the Tour Model IV with
standard weight or graphite weighted, and with "V" grooves or
square
grooves in the standard weight. The standaed weight of the IV is
identical to the II, as are loft and lie.
weedcutter
Take Dead Aim!
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From: jhm@clubmaker-online.com
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:37:01 +0100
Subject: ShopTalk: extreme lofts
Somebody sent me this in reply to the question on suppliers of clubs with
extreme lie-John Muir-Clubmaker Online
Try 800-595-9972. They say they have 4-8 degree lie clubs. Don't know about
left handed clubs. Probably worth a free call and you can tell us about
them. Found themin the classified section of Golf Digest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The name golf arose by default-all the other four-letter words had already
been taken-George Peper, writer http://clubmaker-online.com
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From: jhm@clubmaker-online.com
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:56:17 +0100
Subject: ShopTalk: installing leather grips
Installing leather grips can be quite a pain. Hoby from Hoby's Golfworks
sent along an excellent tip for installing leather grips. Check it out at
http://clubmaker-online.com. Scroll down to the Workbench Tips link.
John Muir
Clubmaker Online
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The name golf arose by default-all the other four-letter words had already
been taken-George Peper, writer http://clubmaker-online.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: djmiller@wolf.co.net (Daniel J. Miller)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:30:04 -0600
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Irons with Extreme Lies
You wrote:
>I am looking for a supplier of iron heads with lies that are 4-5 degrees
from
>Standard. Have someone I am working with that is tall and is currently
2
>inches over Standard who still needs a lie adjustment of 4 degrees upright.
> Can't go any longer on length due to Swingweight, and of course normal
>suppliers of investment cast heads will only recommend 2 degree lie
changes.
>Anyone familiar with a supplier of something different than Standard
or +- 2
>degrees..?
>
>I thought I saw a 5 degree upright iron from a company called Golf Dynamics.
> Does anyone know of such a company and have an address
>
It seems that "standard" lies vary! I currently use Golfsmith
Sterling
Irons which are 2 degrees upright from the Harvey Penick Master's that I
used last year. You may want to compare lies of different heads, use one
that is quite upright, and have it bent an additional 2 degrees. Just a
thought.
Dan
djm
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From: "Williams, Larry" <L.Williams@telesat.ca>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:42:36 -0500
Subject: ShopTalk: Component Distributors/Suppliers In Ontario?
Hi,
I'm just getting started and learning what I can about golf club making
- - thanks Dave Tutelman. I've received a couple of catalogues from the
larger suppliers (GolfSmith, GolfWorks, etc.). However, I'm looking
for component suppliers/distributors in Canada, more specifically
Ontario, even more specifically South-Western Ontario - I'm from
Hanover. Does anyone have or know of a listing/resource for this area?
Thanks for your time.
Larry Williams
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From: John Martin <75714.434@compuserve.com>
Date: 30 Oct 96 14:16:15 EST
Subject: ShopTalk: Need to find a club
I'm trying to locate a club. My father used to build and sell clubs.
Shortly before he passed away he made me a set of "Bubble Burner"
clones. The
bottom of the Heads say "Bomber" and it also has Tour Model printed
on them.
The shafts have "Balloon Power Weight System" printed on them.
I'm trying to
find out what company he purchased them from because I want to get a matching
7 wood.
If anyone knows what company carries these products, I'd love to hear
from
you.
Thanks,
E-mail from: John Martin, 30-Oct-1996
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From: "Luc Despars" <Luc.Despars@space.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 15:21:55 EST
Subject: re: ShopTalk: Component Distributors/Suppliers In Ontario?
Try Criterion Golf in Ottawa. 613-727-1721
Luc Despars
Proud Member of the International Space Station Program
luc.despars@space.gc.ca
St-Hubert, Quebec, Canada
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Original Text
From: "Williams, Larry" <L.Williams@telesat.ca>, on 10/30/96
1:42 PM:
Hi,
I'm just getting started and learning what I can about golf club making
- - thanks Dave Tutelman. I've received a couple of catalogues from the
larger suppliers (GolfSmith, GolfWorks, etc.). However, I'm looking
for component suppliers/distributors in Canada, more specifically
Ontario, even more specifically South-Western Ontario - I'm from
Hanover. Does anyone have or know of a listing/resource for this area?
Thanks for your time.
Larry Williams
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From: "Scott" <golfscot@netcom.industry.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:44:45 -0500
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: (no subject)
Tour II is similar to Ping Eye
Tour IV is similar to Ping Zing, later model, oversize head.
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> From: Alan Cooper <naha@4884.LOL.li>
> To: shoptalk@conch.aa.msen.com
> Subject: ShopTalk: (no subject)
> Date: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 7:44 AM
>
> Hello,
> Since I live abroad and don't have access to the Golfsmith toll free
> number, maybe someone here can help. Are the Tour Model II and IV
> identical iron heads (except for the camber) or are there other
> differences, such as offset for example. Thanks.
>
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From: A02CSM1@MVS.CSO.NIU.EDU
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 01:06 CST
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: extreme lofts
*Mime-Version: 1.0
*Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
*Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:37:01 +0100
*To: shoptalk@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM
*Subject: ShopTalk: extreme lofts
*Sender: owner-shoptalk@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM
*Precedence: bulk
*Reply-To: ShopTalk@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM
*
*Somebody sent me this in reply to the question on suppliers of clubs with
*extreme lie-John Muir-Clubmaker Online
*
*Try 800-595-9972. They say they have 4-8 degree lie clubs. Don't know about
That number is for a company named NewAge golf, and its 4-8 degree
loft, not lie. I did see an ad in a recent PCS Journal for variable
lie clubs. When I get home I'll dig it out and post.
*left handed clubs. Probably worth a free call and you can tell us about
*them. Found themin the classified section of Golf Digest.
*
*
*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*The name golf arose by default-all the other four-letter words had already
*been taken-George Peper, writer http://clubmaker-online.com
*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*
Carl Mc Kinley
Carl's Golf Shop
*
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From: A02CSM1@MVS.CSO.NIU.EDU
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 03:28 CST
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: extreme lofts
*To: shoptalk@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM
*Subject: ShopTalk: extreme lofts
*Sender: owner-shoptalk@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM
*Precedence: bulk
*Reply-To: ShopTalk@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM
*
*Somebody sent me this in reply to the question on suppliers of clubs with
*extreme lie-John Muir-Clubmaker Online
*
*Try 800-595-9972. They say they have 4-8 degree lie clubs. Don't know about
AS I noted in an earlier post, the above company makes 4-8 degree
lofted clubs. I saw an ad in a recent PCS Journal for a company that
offered extreme lie clubs. They are RTS golf, 800/638-5573. web site
http://www.rtsgolf.com I have no interests or dealings with
company --- this is not a recomendation.
*left handed clubs. Probably worth a free call and you can tell us about
*them. Found themin the classified section of Golf Digest.
*
*
*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*The name golf arose by default-all the other four-letter words had already
*been taken-George Peper, writer http://clubmaker-online.com
*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*
Carl Mc Kinley
Carl's Golf Shop
*
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From: John Lunsford <jluns@interserf.net>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:56:06 -0500
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Zero Center, Mad Dog Irons
At 06:39 PM 10/25/96 +0900, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried the Mad Dog or Zero Center Iron from Dynacraft? If
so, how
>do they feel and look, what about the prices. Also, has anyone ever
tried
>Rapport shafts?
>-----------------------------
>John Davis
>john@hevanet.com
>
>"You will find all you need in
>your mind, if you take the time."
> -Dream Theater
>------------------------------
>I put together a set of Mad Dog irons with TT Dynalite Gold shafts several
weeks ago and have been very happy them. They look and feel great and added
noticeable distance.
>
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From: cgdick <cgdick@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:55:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Component Distributors/Suppliers In Ontario?
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Williams, Larry wrote:
> I'm just getting started and learning what I can about golf club making
> - thanks Dave Tutelman. I've received a couple of catalogues from
the
> larger suppliers (GolfSmith, GolfWorks, etc.). However, I'm looking
> for component suppliers/distributors in Canada, more specifically
> Ontario, even more specifically South-Western Ontario - I'm from
> Hanover. Does anyone have or know of a listing/resource for this area?
Think about this some more. If you are in Ontario, you will pay Ontario
Sales Tax! Call 1-800-426-3673 for Caltek Golf and Training in Calgary.
Keep an eye open for the opening of Golfsmith store in Vancouver in
November. I learned a few weeks ago the staff were in training in Texas,
and they should be opening soon.
Caltek also run club maker training courses. They have several vacant
spots in Dec., Jan. & Feb.
Colin
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From: cgdick <cgdick@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:06:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: ShopTalk: Club Making Course in Calgary
Caltek Golf offer an intensive 4 day course in Calgary. Maximum 3
students per week, vacancies in Dec, Jan and Feb.
Their tel. is 1-800-426-3673, and they have a web page, the address for
which I cannot find at the moment. Search for Caltek Golf. The syllabus
is posted there.
I have no interest in the company beyond that of an enthusiasic customer.
Colin
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From: Mark Adam <madam@pmac-acim.org>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:41:42 -0500
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Component Distributors/Suppliers In Ontario?
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Larry;
I am in Ottawa. There is a supplier here that has reasonable prices and
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good service. Anyone who has seen me post here may think that I own the
=
place, because it is the only thing that I seem to put up on here, =
however, The info is as follows:
Criterion Golf
1-800-387-5331
1-613-727-1721
http://207.164.26.37/criterion/welcome.html
Mark.
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From: Williams, Larry[SMTP:L.Williams@telesat.ca]
Sent: October 30, 1996 1:42 PM
To: 'Golf ShopTalk Group'
Subject: ShopTalk: Component Distributors/Suppliers In Ontario?
Hi,
I'm just getting started and learning what I can about golf club making
- - thanks Dave Tutelman. I've received a couple of catalogues from the
larger suppliers (GolfSmith, GolfWorks, etc.). However, I'm looking
for component suppliers/distributors in Canada, more specifically
Ontario, even more specifically South-Western Ontario - I'm from
Hanover. Does anyone have or know of a listing/resource for this area?
Thanks for your time.
Larry Williams
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From: cgdick <cgdick@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:33:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: ShopTalk: Clubmaking Course in Canada
Call 1-800-426-3673 for Caltek Golf and Training in Calgary.
Caltek run club maker training courses. They have several vacant
spots in Dec., Jan. & Feb. Look up their web page at
http://www.goldguide.com/caltek-golf/
You will find a description of the Company, their certified course, and
what lines they carried this past year. They are making changes for 1997.
Their Web Page needs work, but they hire this out, and changes take time.
I have no interest in the firm, but I am sold on their integrity. I am
booked on their course in November. Maximum 3 per class under a Certified
Teacher, and priced in them low Canadian Dollars.
Colin
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From: TStineman@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:10:37 -0500
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Component Distributors/Suppliers In Ontario?
Try Criterion Golf in Nepean.
phone 800-387-5331.
They are the Canadian Distributor for Dynacraft
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From: miko@uwo.ca (D. B. Miko)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:56:20 -0500
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Canadian Component Dist's/Supp'rs
Here's my list...
BESCO Component Golf 1-800-888-6551
Bryan Johnston Golf Services 1-800-267-1428
(GolfWorks)
Caltek Golf Equipment 1-800-426-3673
Canadian Golf Wholesalers 1-905-842-8457
Comfort Concepts 1-800-269-5558
Criterion 1-800-387-5331
(Dynacraft, plus others)
http://www.infoshare.ca/criterion/welcome.html
Earl's something... 1-403-963-7703
Global Golf Network 1-800-665-6654
Great Shot Golf Products Inc. 1-800-265-4751
Golf Option 1-800-267-5252
GolfQuip 1-800-668-5603
S&G Distributing Co 1-613-549-5557
Premier Golf Supply Inc. 1-800-991-9393
Tour Line Compatible Golf Worldwide
http://www.netbistro.com/golf/tlcindex.html
Zapo 1-514-229-4879
miko
Mac Shack Golf
London, Ontario, Canada
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From: "Scott" <golfscot@netcom.industry.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:33:34 -0500
Subject: ShopTalk: Winter Golg Gloves
Hi All
Just got off the golf course. It was 34 degrees outside. I am a righty.
Could not feel right hand after 3 holes. Too cold. This gave me a problem
putting. Shot a 54 for 9 holes.
Any reccomendations for winter golf gloves, both hands. It is important
to
have free movement in the gloves, no restrictions.
Thanks,
Scott Fishel
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From: "MARTIN DE REPENTIGNY" <MARDER16@labadm.usherb.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:09:09 EST
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Winter Golg Gloves
Hi Scott,
Have you ever tried a pair of football gloves ??? Those used by the
wide receivers are smooth and they allow great flexibility !!!
Let me know if it as solved your problems ....
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From: "MARTIN DE REPENTIGNY" <MARDER16@labadm.usherb.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:50:23 EST
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Winter Golg Gloves
Hi Scott,
Have you ever tried a pair of football gloves ??? Those used by the
wide receivers are smooth and they allow great flexibility !!!
Let me know if it has solved your problems ....
Martin de Rep.
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From: "Tom T" <tom@in.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:03:25 -0500
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Winter Golg Gloves
Try GolfWorks item Q1039 Cold Weather Golf Gloves. They come in four sizes
and runs $11.95 a pair. (800-848-8358)
It sounds like you are from the MidWest also. We played Saturday morning
and it was cold here too. The wind chill was about 8 above.
A member of our foursome had a head cover on his right hand to keep it
warm. (I wouldn't recommend it, it looks kind of silly)
Tom T
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> From: Scott <golfscot@netcom.industry.net>
> To: Shop Talk <shoptalk@conch.aa.msen.com>
> Subject: ShopTalk: Winter Golg Gloves
> Date: Sunday, November 03, 1996 12:33 PM
>
> Hi All
> Just got off the golf course. It was 34 degrees outside. I am a righty.
> Could not feel right hand after 3 holes. Too cold. This gave me a problem
> putting. Shot a 54 for 9 holes.
> Any reccomendations for winter golf gloves, both hands. It is important
to
> have free movement in the gloves, no restrictions.
> Thanks,
> Scott Fishel
>
>
>
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